Monday, August 03, 2009

LCMinutes 1.55 Is Out

It has been a really long time since my last update, and I am really sorry for not having answered many comments and/or emails left by some users.

But finally I take some time to fix a long over due bug: double counting of SMS sent out when a threaded SMS application is used. If you have this issue, check the download link on the right to see whether it works for you.

And thanks Jeffc for helping me in solving this issue. I hope this will help other users with this issue.

106 comments:

Eric said...

Hello,

This is great! However I do not really understand how to use it. I do need help from you.

My plan cost 35€ / month:
• 120 minutes from Monday till Friday (except holidays) from 8 am till 6 pm (these minutes are reportables next month),
• 120 minutes from Monday till Friday from 6 pm till 8 am the next day and the weekend from Friday 6 pm till Monday 8 am (these minutes are not reportables next month),
• In these minutes are included:
o all calls with 10 digits beginning with 01, 02, 03, 04, 05 and 06 (except calls beginning with 0590 and 0690)
o all calls with 10 digits beginning with 0800 and 09
o all calls with 4 digits beginning with 30 and 31
• If the 120 minutes “WeekDay” and/or the 120 minutes “WeekEnd” are consummed and for all calls excluded, the calls are charged 0,38€ / min (invoicing by second from the first second). Except for calls beginning with 0590 and 0690, the calls are charged 0,38€ / min (invoicing by second from the first minute)
• 10 SMS a month. Then by SMS:
o During the week between 10 pm to 8 am the next day (except weekend and holidays): 0,10€ / sending / addressee.
o The rest of the time:0,15€ / sending / addressee
• Data: 0,50€ / session within the limits of 2 Mo then 1€ / Mo supplementary

And my plan change on the 24th. Will the program auto refresh after the Charged day is pass? How the balance is uptated?
I think that is everything.

Thank you very much for your help.

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Eric

LCMinutes has a problem in supporting your phone plan: your have different evening definition for phone call and sms, for phone call, the evening is 6PM-8AM, but for SMS, it's 10PM-8AM.

And you mentioned your 120 weekday minutes is reportable in next month, does it mean your unused minutes will be added to the 120 free minutes of next month?

Except that, your call rates should be:

0.00513/0.00513/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/1/60/60/0x0000:0590,0690;
0.00513/0.00513/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/1/0/0/0x0003:01,02,03,04,05,06,0800,09,30,31;

For SMS the rates string should be:

0.15/0.10/0.15/0.0/0/0/0x0000:;

And select rollover for your weekday minutes.

But again, LCMinutes doesn't support different evening definition for phone calls and sms.

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus

Jose said...

hello Lion,

congratulations for you work, it´s very helpful.

Jose said...

hello Lion,

congratulations for you work, it´s very helpful.
Sorry for my English, i hope i make miself understand.

I did all configurations and was working until now. the problem should be in sms string.
My plan is:
-no free sms and no free minutes.
-same rate for all days.
Weekday:1-7
-free call´s for certain numbers conected to the campany
0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0/0x0000:(number),(number),(number)....;
-0,06€ for one network in first minute and after 1st minute by second
0.001/0.001/0.001/0.0/0.06/0.0/0.0/1/60/60/0x000:92,96,12030;
-and 0.12 for all other networks in first minute and after 1st minute by second
0.002/0.002/0.002/0.0/0.12/0.0/0.0/1/60/60/0x0000:;

The problem is on sms rate, in weekdays the coste on report is 0.05€(tax included) and today, weekend on repot is charged 0.07€ (tax includ)for the same number network 96......
the strings i configured for sms are:
-0.04/0.04/0.04/0.0/0/0/0x0100:96,92;
and -0.06/0.06/0.06/0.0/0/0/0x0100:;

i hope you can help me, confratulations once again for you great work

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Jose

In LCMinutes a week is defined as 0-6, and it does not support different weekday definitions for phone call and SMS. Because you have different rates for SMS in weekday and weekend, so you will need to define your weekday as 1-5.

And for your SMS rates string, your share flag should be 0x0000 instead of 0x0100.

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus

Jose said...

it´s working, tank you very much.

Eric said...

Hello Lion

Thank you very much for your help.

For me it is not a problem if LCMinutes doesn't support different evening definition for phone calls and sms : I will use the same definition.

When I mentioned 120 weekday minutes is reportable in next month, it means my unused minutes will be added to the 120 free minutes of next month. Do I have to change something or to select rollover for my weekday minutes is enough?

To understand very well : how do you calculate the 0.00513 in the call rates?

Thank again

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Eric

Actually I am not sure how I get the 0.00513, it should be 0.0063 (0.38 / 60). But I would suggest you set your charge interval from 1 second to 3 seconds, and thus use rates 0.019 instead of 0.0063, in this way for a long call the charge will be more accurate.

And for your 120 weekday minutes, I call it "rollover", you just need to check rollover for your weekday minutes so any of your unused weekend minutes can rollover to next month.

Sorry for any confusion and hope this clarifies.
LyonPlus

TWSTR said...

Hi Lyon,
your program is great.
I just need help with Configuration. Can you help me?

I have an EPlus contract with 500 units (SMS, or minutes - one unit is a sms or 60seconds call.
), called AllIn. The timing for calls is 60/1 seconds. Additionally, I have an Internet fairrate, which is slower above 250MB. Incoming SMS and calls are free.

I pay for the package € 46. My charging Day is the last Day in month.

How should I set the program and what I need to set in balance?

What is the effective date and expired date?

Greetings from Germany
TWSTR

bolla50 said...

Hi Lyon
great program first of all.
I have an Htc Hd and LCminutes doesen't calculate SMS. In the balance It always write 0 SMS although i write lots of Sms. Maybe i wrote wrong settings?
Can you Help me?
Thank you

SpideySpirit said...

my htc touch viva doesn't update both sms message & call minutes counts. Anyone know why?

SpideySpirit said...

OK after rebooting my HTC the call count is working, but sms count doesn't. Same as 'bolla50'

Milos said...
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Milos said...

Hi. Thanx for great app. I think i finally made it work, but just in case, Id like your advice.
My plan is:
-300 free minutes for numbers with 064 and 065 prefix (my operator), -no free minutes for other operators (062,063,066..).
-300 free sms for all operators.
-In all outgoing calls first minute is charge (1minute is charge interval) and after that charge interval is 1sec. Outgoing charge fee is 2.9$ but is charged only when there is no free minutes, and ouvcorse is always charge for those other numbers (063,066)..

So Ive set these call rates:

0.075/0.075/0.075/0.0/0.0/2.9/0.0/1/60/60/0x0001:064,065;
0.110/0.110/0.110/0.0/0.0/2.9/0.0/1/60/60/0x0000:;

Did i get it right?
Thanx in advance.

Milos said...

Guess not, since it is charging me for every call i start whether it was on my network or to any other networks..and i cant seem too make charge all calls bellow 1minute as if they lastet whole 60sec. And as i said my operator is rounding that first minute. help would be much appreciated. Thanx :)

Boris said...

Hi LyonPlus,

My Smartphone doesn't have a touchscreen. How can I edit the settings on the display or misc tab.

Thanks,
Boris

LyonPlus said...

Sorry to all for the late response!

Hi, Milos, unfortunately LCMinutes does not support per call charge (the $2.9 for outgoing calls) only after free minutes are used, in other words, per call charge for outgoing calls will always apply.

Hi, Boris, you will need a registry editor to do the job, just search LCMinutes and check the available settings there.

Best Regards
LyonPlus

Milos said...

Did I atleast got my strings right? Sms counting is working, but minutes counter is not. As I mentioned before, I have free minutes only on my network (064,065 nubers) and none on other networks..and there is first minute charge whether i talk the whole minute or not (outgoing calls only). My string are posted up there. Please correct them if and when you have tam L.
Thanks alot! ;)

Shaun said...

Hi,

I was wondering if you got a definition of all call strings?

I'm trying to set it up and I got my call rate working. I know you have define the sms call string so I'll do that later. What I want to ask is how do I setup the data cost? My data cost me 0.015 per MB and each session is round to the nearly KB and charged there of. How would I do this?

Thank you.

Love the software, just take a little getting used to :)

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Milos

If all your incoming call is free, and if the $2.9 is for the first minute, then I guess your call rates should be:

0.075/0.075/0.075/0.0//2.9/0.0/0.0/1/60/60/0x0001:064,065;
0.110/0.110/0.110/0.0/2.9/0.0/0.0/1/60/60/0x0000:;

What I changed is to move 2.9 from outgoing connect fee to start minutes fee.

Not sure why your minutes is not counted, did you see any call recorded in your LCMinutes?

Hope this helps.
Lyon

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Shaun

If you don't have free data allowance, then just set your data limit to 0, and put 0.015 into box before "for every extra", and 1000 into box before "KB". And UN-select the "round up" checkbox.

And because your data usage is not time based, so just leave 0.0 for every 0 second there.

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus

Shaun said...
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Shaun said...

Hi,

I think there's a bug in the software. Wonder why I couldn't find the data settings :) It doesn't show the fields unless I scroll RIGHT down to the bottom. Please see the screenshot below.

I'm using a HTC Touch HD with wvga resolution (480x800)


Click to view full size!


Cheers

LyonPlus said...

Shaun,

Yeah, I just noticed this issue, unfortunately not having the time to fix it now. Please export your rate plan and edit the file manually, then import it.

Best Regards
Lyon

Luqman said...

Hi Lyon,

This is a really great app! Thanks for the time you spent on it. I was trying to set up my plan, but I hit a snag and I think that it's because the plan I'm on is very different from the standard plans.

I'm in South Africa, on the MTN cellular network, and the plan I'm on is called AnyTime 350. It works thus:
My monthly subscription is charged at R387.50. Included in this is R350 free to be used for calls, data, etc and 50 free SMSs.

The term In-Bundle rates refers to the rates charged while the R350 is not finished. In-bundle rates are R1.95 per min for local calls to any network or landline, and R2.00 per Mb for data.

Out-Of-Bundle rates are as follows:
Local calls: R2.35 per min
Local SMS: R0.75 per SMS
Int'l SMS: R1.60
Local MMS: R0.90 per MMS
Int'l MMS: R1.80 per MMS
Data: R2.00/Mb

Int'l calls are barred.
Is it possible to set this up on LCMinutes?

Thanks in advance.
Luqman

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Luqman

Unfortunately LCMinutes doesn't support two different rates for the same number. This kind of rates is new to me.

Best Regards
LyonPlus

Luqman said...

Thanks for the response.
It's a pity... I was looking forward to using this great app, and sharing it with others. But most cellular companies in South Africa are either on, or moving toward this type of plan.

Regards,
Luqman

Sergiu said...

Hi LyonPlus. Thank you for this program it's really good. It has more configurable options than other commercial progs. However I have a problem: the minutes and the text messages are not counted. The today screen always shows 0 (zero)for today minutes and for total weekday minutes. I tried to restart my device a couple of times, looked to the xml config file and it seems ok, I'm quite sure the config is right. Do you have any idea on how to debug that?
Thanks,

Sergiu

Sergiu said...

By The way, I have an HP IPAQ hw6915 with WM5.

jens321 said...

hi, great app!
but could you please help me with the right settings for my plan?
i think my english isn´t good enough, so it´s to complicated for me...

i pay €0.09 per minute for a call. every minute that has started will be fully charged with €0.09 --> 60/60.

SMS= €0.09

Data: €0.24/MB charged in steps of 10 kb.

thanx

jens321 said...
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LyonPlus said...

Hi, Sergiu

You can turn on traces in Settings, and the traces is saved in \Application Data\LCMinutes.

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus

LyonPlus said...

Hi, jens321

Use call rates string like:
0.09/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0000:;

And use SMS rates string like:
0.09/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0000:;

Put your data rates as 0.0024 per 10k in data rates part.

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus
And define your

Delano said...

Hello Lyon Since a had a high bill from my provider I start to search for a minute counter and LC minute seems to be the solution for it.

Thanks for making this piece of software :D Keep up the good work!

Greetz Delano
The Netherlands

Delano said...

Hello Lyon,
i tried to set up my plan but i'm a little bit confused how to do so.

My plan is
Provider: telfort NL
300 minutes plan, (no evening / weekend difference / restrictions)
after 300 minutes € 0.25 a minute
Sms plan: 100 a month
Data: Fair Use Policy (60MB max)

Hope you can help me out with the setup

Greetz Delano

TWSTR said...

Hi Lyon, can u please give me an answer to my question - without an answer i cannot use the programm unfortionatly.

September 14, 2009 7:49 AM

"Hi Lyon,
your program is great.
I just need help with Configuration. Can you help me?

I have an EPlus contract with 500 units (SMS, or minutes - one unit is a sms or 60seconds call.
), called AllIn. The timing for calls is 60/1 seconds. Additionally, I have an Internet fairrate, which is slower above 250MB. Incoming SMS and calls are free.

I pay for the package € 46. My charging Day is the last Day in month.

How should I set the program and what I need to set in balance?

What is the effective date and expired date?

Greetings from Germany
TWSTR"

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Delano

Set your evening as 00-00, weekday as 0-6, set your free weekday minutes as 300.

And use following call rates string:
0.25/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0001:;

Set your weekday SMS as 100, use SMS rates string as following, assuming xxx as the rates for your SMS after 100:
xxx/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0100:;

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus

LyonPlus said...

Hi, TWSTR

Sorry for the late response to your question!

For the balance, the effective date means the date your balance value is, and the expire date is the date your balance will expire. For example, as of 2009-11-11, you have 100 free minutes, 100 free sms, and they will expire after 2009-12-05, then the effective date is 209-11-11, and the expire date is 2009-12-05. If your plan have no expire date for your balance, then you don't need to set this value, but you need to check rollover in your rate plan to indicate that.

Set your month charge day as 1, set your weekday as 0-6, evening as 00-00, set your free weekday minutes as 500. check free incoming call, check free incoming sms.

Assuming after you used all you 500 units, your per minute call rates is XXX, SMS rates is YYY. Then you should use following call rates string:
XXX/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0001:;

And your SMS rates string should be:
YYY/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0x0001:;

And set your data limits as 250000KB.

That should do, please let me if it doesn't work as you expect.
LyonPlus

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SpideySpirit said...

I agree with everyone here, this app is fantastic..thx.
On the 9th Oct I posted a request for help, for both myself & 'Bolla50'. Seems we have the same issue the SMS count remains at 0(zero)no matter how many msgs we send. Co-incidentally we both use a HTC win mobile pda. Lyons do u have any idea? Thanks in advance

YoLoLo said...

Hello,
I've just installed your tool, as a successor of HomeScreen++ and SmaatoCost...
These were too much buggy for me...

Well,
I haven't succeed in defining my data plan, my rate plan is simple, but your coding is not for a non computer worker ;)

Can you help on this (simple) problem ? TIA.

My rate plan:
Restart every 5th of the month
I pay 10,50€ to have the phone access (no free minutes) and 10Mb of data.
- Phone (all the time) : 0.30€ per minute, the 1st minute is always charged (even if i make a 10 seconds call, i will be charged for 1 minute...), then after the 1st minute, the phone call is charged second by second.
I have got free numbers : 888 and #123# (services numbers)
- SMS : 0.15€ per SMS every time
- DATA : 5 MB free, with round counter of 10KB, and 0.15€ per 10 KB more.

As you see, it's not that difficult to tell... but very to code ! ;)

I have tried many solutions, but no informations of data SMS or phone charges is displayed (i've imported data from history with the built-in tool to check... Results are bad...)

May you help, please ?

Thanks in advance for such a great tool !

PS : I often performs French translations for PPC softs, freeware and others (CryptoCard, SKTools, SBSH products like PocketBrezee, PocketWeather and PhoneWeaver, etc...) : So, if you want this tool translated, i'm willing to help to make the translation !

Delano said...

Hello LyonPlus,
Thanks for the reply, i used your advised settings and get a good result.

Now I'll be able to not have a bill of €116,- any more just because the phone does'nt register the used / unused minutes. So a verry BIG thank you!

I wonder is there any manual for the tool you build so users can find the rates & codes and meaning of settings?

Greetz & thanks again.
Delano
The netherlands

APDIS said...

Hola, soy nuevo y quisiera saber si hay algún manual en español para tu programa. Gracias.

José Vargas
josevargas@vodafone.es

Fabio said...

Hello,
what a great application, but i hace a problem with the settings
Would you help me ?
My plan cost 37,90€ / month - My plan change on the 13th
• 120 minutes from Monday till Friday from 0 am till 6 pm (these minutes are reportables next month),
• 120 minutes from Monday till Friday from 6 pm till 0 am and the weekend from Saturday 0 am till Monday 0 am (these minutes are not reportables next month),
• In these minutes are included all calls with 11 digits beginning with +331, +332, +333, +334, +335, +336, +339
• If the 120 minutes “WeekDay” and/or the 120 minutes “WeekEnd” are consummed and for all calls excluded, the calls are charged 0,36€ / min (invoicing by second from the first second). Except for call +33660660001 witch is always free
• Free sms
• Free Data

Thank's in advance

victorjga said...

Hello Lyon,

A long time ago, I have been using your program, and it's fabulous. But I have to change carriers and I forgot to configure it.

I've not been able to find in your forums an answer for me. So, I need to ask you:

My rate is 300 minutes free 18-08 (6pm to 8am) on weekdays (Monday to Friday) and weekends 24h with the same minutes (together).

Out of that, charging 15 cents for the establishment of call and 18 cents per minute if you:
* exceed 300 minutes
* if you call on weekdays during the day (08-16)
* if over 75 call different numbers.

I have free incoming calls.
I have free incoming but outgoing sms fee: 15 cents.
(No it does the term "rollover" on your program).

How could make your setup? Please!

Thank you very much, and excuse my English.

Víctor from Spain.

Nadia said...

Hello there,

I am from South Africa.

Thankyou for taking the time to improve this software. It is really helpful. It has great potential.

However I am feeling a tad overwhelmed with it and I would appreciate if you could help with my plan.

My plan costs R329/month:

# This includes 43 free anytime minutes. Thereafter, I pay 5 cents per second for any call, to any number, at any time

# I have 125 free sms. Thereafter I pay 25 cents per sms. Remaining sms's are carried over.

# I get 100MB of data per month. Out of bundle rates are 80cents per MB.

Please would you work out my string for me.

Thank you again

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Sreeni said...

Hi,
I am rom India. This software is really is really useful. I am able to set the traffic plan with this software. I have a different traffic plan when i am Roaming inside or ouside the country. How do is set traffic plan for this case?

Patricia said...

Hi there

I really don't know how to setup the Rate plan.I also read the FAQ but couldn't find the answer.

Every 4th of the month i get
- 200 minutes (can be used 24/7)
- 100 Sms (can be used 24/7)
after the 200 minutes i have to pay €0,25 per minute.Doesn't matter if its a weekday or weekend or evening.This is also with the sms,i have to pay €0,25 for each sms over my 100 limit.

How to set up my rate plan??
Thnx a lot!

Melvin said...

hi eric,

just download this and think it is great. but i do not know how to set it up. some advise pls. thanks.

i'm using a 100minutes plan/mth. with 1100 sms

Melvin said...

hi eric, i've just downloaded your program into my htc. but do not know how to configure it. pls advise.

i'm using a 100 min/mth for 1100sms as well. there's no weekend hours. just standard rate.

thanks

Myš said...

Hello Lyon, thank you very much for this grat app. I was using that for years but now I changed my device and cant find codes for today screen display to tailor the plugin? I was looking for it for it must have been somewhere but unsuccessfuly.
Thank you very much again

Francesco said...

Hello LyonPlus

I do really appreciate your work. i'm just a bit confused as many others in here. Maybe thats the reason is very usefull to find out how much your phone line cost in the mobile fares jungle.

So could u please help me in setting up my plan ?

I pay 14€ montly starting at the day 16 each month.

Then i got 120 free minutes per month, no rollover and 100 free SMS per month no rollover.

After that i pay 0,45€ weekday from 08-18 and 0,15€ weekday from 18-08. At the weekend i pay 0,15€

Sms cost after the first 100 montly its 0,12€ each.

Data connection is 0,125€ every 15 mins.

Could u please help me ??

Thanks in advance

Philipp said...

Hi LyonPlus,

I use your prog since 1.44 and I'm very happy with it. Thanks for your work!

Now I changed my contract from postpaid to prepaid and I have to readjust your tool for. So I have a litte problem with a special rates string. I can call one number cheaper than the others (0.05 instead of 0.15; no special weekend/evening). So I put this in the box:
01796611166:0:0.05/0.0/0.0/-50:1:0.15/0.0;

But it doesn't work. Can you help me please?

By the way: What effects the -50? And why you used colons for this string, no slashes?

Thanks for your help.

Regards
Philipp

Philipp said...
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Philipp said...

Hey Francesco,

maybe I can help you, try this:

Plan Type: Postpaid
Monthly Pay:€ 14.00 in total
Charged at: day 16
Weekday: 1-5
Evening: 18-08
: checked evening as weekend
Free Calls: checked free incoming call
//if you have free incoming calls
Free Minutes: 120 for weekday
Call Rates: 0.45/0.15/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0001:;
: checked use start rates only
// if, for exemple: when you start to call at 17:59 on monday, you have to pay like weekday also for minutes after 18 o'clock
SMS: checked free incoming SMS
// if incoming SMS are free
Free SMS: 100 for weekday
SMS Rates: 0.12/0.12/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0100:;
Data Limit: 0 KB
:€ 0.0 for every extra
: 0 KB
:€ 0.125 for every
: 900 seconds

Everything else should be 0 or unchecked.

For Display maybe you want to use this string:
<21>/<22> minutes <51>/<52> SMS <1> euro
Should show: "x/120 minutes, y/100 SMS, z euro"
(x is used minutes, y is used sms, z is current balance).

I hope it work's!

Regards
Philipp

Philipp said...

Please attend that I'm not the owner of this blog or designer of LCMinutes!


@ Sreeni: I think (detection of) roaming is not supported yet.


@ Patricia: You configuration should look like this:
Charged at: day 4
Weekday: 0-6
Evening: 00-00
Free Calls: checked free incoming call
//if you have free incoming calls
Free Minutes: 200 for weekday
Call Rates: 0.25/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0001:;
SMS: checked free incoming SMS
// if incoming SMS are free
Free SMS: 100 for weekday
SMS Rates: 0.25/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0100:;


@ Melvin: At first, the owner of this blog and designer of LCMinutes is not Eric, it's LyonPlus.

You should configure it for your contract in that way:

Weekday: 0-6
Evening: 00-00
Free Calls: checked free incoming call
//if you have free incoming calls
Free Minutes: 100 for weekday
Call Rates: XXX/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0001:;
// XXX is price of one minute
SMS: checked free incoming SMS
// if incoming SMS are free
Free SMS: 1100 for weekday
SMS Rates: YYY/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0100:;
// YYY is price of one sms


@ Myš: You can find the display format strings at the end of the post about 1.54 (http://lctools.blogspot.com/2008/07/lcminutes-154-is-out-for-maximum.html).


@ everybody comming next: If you want to set your application for you, please read the faq and the post of version 1.54 at first. A lot of questions are answered there.

Dylan said...
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Dylan said...

Hello Lyon,

The CALL and SMS portions are working but the DATA portion are not being captured. It remains at 0kb.

How can i solve this? Did i miss out something?

I am using HTC HD2, Winmo 6.5 btw...

-Dylan

Bodas said...

Hello and thank you for your hard work with this usefull app.

Anyway, i feel a bit stupid, and i am nor able to set up it.

I have a PREPAID plan, with SIMYO (spanish operator) The fees are plain: 0,08 cents per each 60 seconds everytime everyday, 0,15 cents outgoing SMS. free incoming cals and SMS, Data traffic is charged at 0.09 cents per MB.

I charge the prepaid with 5, 10 or 20 euros per month, never a fixed quantity.

How do i set tup the LC calls software?

What do i type in the balance screen? i do not know how to set it up, sorry, any help?

Thank you from SPAIN!!

Philipp said...

Hey Bodas,

try these settings:

Plan Type: Prepaid
Weekday: 0-6
Evening: 00-00
Free Calls: checked free incoming call
//if you have free incoming calls
Call Rates: 0.08/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0000:;
: checked use start rates only
// if, for exemple: when you start to call at 17:59 on monday, you have to pay like weekday also for minutes after 18 o'clock
SMS: checked free incoming SMS
// if incoming SMS are free
SMS Rates: 0.15/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0000:;
Data Limit: 0 KB
:€ 0.09 for every extra
: 1024 KB
// maybe your provider sets 1MB as 1000KB, then change it to 1000 instead of 1024
:€ 0.0 for every
: 0 seconds

When you charge your account, just go in to "Settings" -> "Balance" -> push "Edit" and add the amount you bought to balance. For example: if your current balance is 1,24 and you bought a 10-EUR-card, just add 10 to the amount and so type in 11,24.

I hope it helps.

Janiszka said...

Hi!

Can someone help me?
I have a postpaid plan, which costs me 937,5 HUF in every month.
Every 60 seconds (anywhere, anytime) cost me 21.375 HUF, but it counts seconds.
1 SMS costs: 18.75 HUF
And I have an option, that I can call my wife for free anytime.
How should I set up, to work correctly?

LyonPlus said...

Sorry, for not having replied any questions here recently. Really busy now.

And Philipp: thanks for helping others out!

Janiszka:
Assume your wife's number is 123456789, you call rates string should be:
0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/1/0/0/0x0000:123456789;
0.35625/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/1/0/0/0x0000:;
And you SMS rates string should be:
18.75/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0000:;

Hope this helps.
LyonPlus

Javi said...

Hi, congratulations for this useful app. In Spain, where we have a strong economic crisis your app is indispensable;)

Well... I tried to configure my POSTPAID plan, but i am not able to set up it.

I have a postpaid plan, with a minimal consumption of 9€ per month (if I expend less y pay 9€; if i expend more, for example 14 €, i pay 14 €). This cuestion is not important for me, I'm more interested to configurate the rest of the plan:

Without hours distinction
Without days distinction

- CALLS
Free incoming calls
Outgoing calls rates:
Call establishment (whenever the other person pick up the phone): 0.15 €
Then:
Calls to number 954954954: 0.199€ the first minute, and then 90 minutes free
Calls to other numbers: 0.199€/min

- SMS

Free incoming sms
Outgoing sms rates:
SMSs to number 667667667: 0.06€
SMSs to other numbers: 0.15 €

- Data traffic

0.69 € per 5MB

How can I configurate this plan in LCminutes?
What means the term "rollover" in the configuration.

Thank you!!
Javier

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Javi

Sorry LCMinutes doesn't support minimal payment. So maybe you can just set you monthly payment as $0.00.

"Rollover" means for plan having "free" minutes, the unused minutes can be added into the free minutes of the next month.

Assume:
* All your calls are charged by minute;
* You have no call establishment fee for incoming call;
* You will never call 95495495 longer than 90 minutes.

Your call rates string should be:
0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.199/0.15/0.0/60/0/0/0x0000:954954954;
0.199/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.15/0.0/60/0/0/0x0000:;

And your sms rates string should be:
0.06/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0000:667667667;
0.15/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0000:;

And don't forget to set your weekday as 0-6, and your daytime as 00-00.

Hope this helps!
LyonPlus

tomoas said...

hello,
I live Czech republic

My plan cost 150CZK/month

Call:
always pay 5,6CZK/1min

SMS:
I have 250 Free SMS, after each 1CZK/1SMS

Thank you very much for your help.

Friedenand said...

Hello Lyon,

Thanks for all the work you put into this great app.

In my plan I'm allowed unlimited free calls to numbers from the same carrier (TIM Brasil).

Is there a way to set this up in my "Current Rate Plan"?

I could manually input the TIM numbers I call the most, but the free calls edit box you mention in the FAQ is not showing (I'm using 1.55, Build 0071).

Thank you so much for your help.

LyonPlus said...

Tomoas: not sure your question.

Friedenand: sorry, there's no way for LCMinutes to know which phone share the same operator with your number, especially considering the phone number portability. But you do have a solution: you can export your plan, change it with whatever plain text editor, and then import it again.

Friedenand said...

Thanks, Lyon.

Where do I enter the numbers I can call for free? Like I said, I don't see the multiline edit box you mention in the FAQ. I tried entering them in the "Special Rated" box, but the string I used didn't work.
[91254830:0:0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0:30:0.30/0.15]

Thanks again for your help.

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Friedenand, you should just use your call rates to define your free calls, like:

0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0/0x0000:12345,22345,32345;

Assume 12345, 22345, and 32345 are your 3 free numbers.

LyonPlus

kikireon said...

Dear Lyon

Thanks for your work.

May I ask you how to do the setup for the following price plan (orange optima pro Switzerland):
-free landline calls during extended business hours (MO-SA 7-19)
-same network and other mobile networks (code +41 76 - +41 79) are charged 0.45 all the time
-evening and weekend calls to landline numbers (all codes except the mobile ones +41 76/77/78/79) are 0.45 per minute
-0.15 per SMS
-an MB of data is 8.00 (circa 0.008/Kb)

BTW: Prices are in Swiss Francs - It's bloody expensive for a subscription costing CHF 25 a month no free minutes or other freebies included!

Can I just define evening as 7-19 instead of 19-7?

Thanks for help.

Sincerly, David.

kikireon said...

Dear Lyon

Thanks for your work.

May I ask you how to do the setup for the following price plan (orange optima pro Switzerland):
-free landline calls during extended business hours (MO-SA 7-19)
-same network and other mobile networks (code +41 76 - +41 79) are charged 0.45 all the time
-evening and weekend calls to landline numbers (all codes except the mobile ones +41 76/77/78/79) are 0.45 per minute
-0.15 per SMS
-an MB of data is 8.00 (circa 0.008/Kb)

BTW: Prices are in Swiss Francs - It's bloody expensive for a subscription costing CHF 25 a month no free minutes or other freebies included!

Can I just define evening as 7-19 instead of 19-7?

Thanks for help.

Sincerly, David.

kikireon said...

sorry to have bothered, I figured it out with the information in this blog. You might delete my comments, thanks.

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Edwin said...

I am using HTC phone with WM6. I installed the program but it cannot calculate the min or sms usage right. Also, I cant set the date in the "balance" page correctly. It goes back to 2009-xx-xx when i set it.
My plan is "no weekend or evening plan" and it starts on 9th of every month.
I have 1200 free mins and it roundup every call to the nearest min. I have unlimited SMS.
How should i setup?

Edwin said...

The incoming and outgoing call will be counted as used minutes also. How should i setu? (i mean incoming call are not free and will be deducted from the free minutes)

Krishna said...

Hello LyonPlus,

I have a prepaid plan through Page Plus Cellular. For $29.95, I get 1200 domestic voice minutes, 1200 dometic text and multimedia messages, and 50 megabytes of data transfer. Plan started on 07-21-2010. Overage charges are $0.12 per minute over 1,200 in one month; $0.10 per MMS over 1,200 in one month; $0.15 per text message over 1,200 in one month; and $0.60 MB (or $0.0006 per KB) over 50MB in one month. I have separate charges for calls outside the USA, i.e. calls to Mexico $0.49 per minute. What should my rates be? Also, I cannot change the effective date and expiration date for my balance.

Thanks, Kel in USA

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Krishna

To modify your balance with date info, first export your balance to a file, then modify that file and them import it.

And unfortunately LCMinutes is unable to track MMS usage.

Otherwise, you can set your month start date as 21, your free minutes for weekday as 1200, free SMS for weekday as 1200. And use following call rates string:
0.12/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0001:;

For Mexican calls, use special call rates string:
0.49/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0/0x0000:0052,+52;

And use following rates string for SMS:
0.15/0.0/0.0/-50/0/0/0x0100:;

Hope this helps!

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rap said...

Hi Lyon, I am trying out your program. Its a bit complicated to setup, but its becoming quit clear now.

I have a few questions, maby you can answer them:

My bundle includes sms and minutes (not sepperatly). I have 280 of 280 sms. So when i send an sms my free minutes also decreases.
Is it possible to set this up in lcminutes and how should i do it?

IS there a way to filter out de incomming calls from the screen so i only see the incomming (paid) ones?

My minutes counter now tels me it have used 3 minutes. Thats correct but because some calls are shorter then a minute, i have to pay for 6 minutes. The counter doesnt show that. Is there a way to change that of is ther another way to see for howmany minutes i am charged?

ray

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Ray

Yes you can share free minutes and SMS, notice the / in the SMS rates string. Let's say 3 out sms will consume you one minute, and incoming sms is free, then you should put something like following in your sms rates string, assuming you have no evening time, no weekend, and extra SMS is $0.5:
0.5/0.0/0.0/0.0/20/0/0x0001:;

Unfortunately there's no way to filter out free incoming calls.

LCMinutes will round up to the charging unit, let's say you are charged by minute, then 61 second will get you 2 minutes. You just need to set the correct value for the seconds per charge value for your call rates string.

J.T.K.M. said...

Hello,

I think your software is good too! However I have a lot of problems with inputting my plan.

My plan cost each month 16,94. I get 1100 sms for free that month and 250 minutes each month.

Everytime I use more minutes I have to pay 0.50 euro a minute and 0.25 euro if I use more than 11000 sms.

I am not sure if the program support the following plan, but I can "convert" my minutes into sms if I want to or if it's needed.

Thanks for your help

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rap said...

Hi Thanks for your answer.
I now understand how to share sms and minutes.

Maby you can help me with my call rate and sms rate.

Call:
I pay my call per second, with a minimum of a minut. My rate is 7ct a minute
so if my call is than 10 seconds i pay 7ct, if my call is 70 seconds i pay 7ct + ((7/60)*10).
How should the call rate looks like?
I have a fixed rate for all day (no evening of weekend rates)

My sms also is a minute (7ct)
i think my sms rate should be:
0.7/0.0/0.0/0.0/1/0/0x0001:;
is this correct?

ray

LyonPlus said...

JTKM: yes, sharing sms and call minutes is supported, / are for this, but unfortunately it will use your free minutes first, instead of after using your free SMS.

Other than that just pay attention to sharing flags.

LyonPlus said...

rap: your sms rates should be:
0.7/0.0/0.0/0.0/60/0/0x0001:;

Or if your incoming sms is not free and charged the same with outgoing sms:
0.7/0.0/0.0/-50/60/60/0x0001:;

And your call rates should be:
0.035/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.7/0.0/0.0/3/60/60/0x0001:;

Notice I use 3 seconds charge instead of 1 second charge to avoid calculation error.

jith said...

Hi Lyon,

LCMinutes 1.55 is not counting the sms on my xperia x2. It is counting the Data transfer but not working with the sms.. please advise..

Thank you, Lyon..

Regards,
Sujith

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Andrea said...

THANK you very Much for your great software!!!!!
I am having some ( a lot ) problem configuring it :-(
This is my plan

120 phone call minutes month not reportable ( cost 9 euro month)
after that
12 cents for minute (ticks every 30 seconds) for all days for all phone numbers, + 16 cents at the answer
SMS 15 cents foreforever for all

Special:
400 minutes free phone call to my wife phone number ,not reportable. ( cost 3 euro month)after that
12 cents for minute (ticks every 30 seconds) for all days + 16 cents at the answer

Can you help me setting this parameter?

I'd like to monitor how many minutes I have left with my wife and with all.

Also I am using manila2d how can I visualize the report?

Andrea said...

Ok I found the post that explain the rates format in the 1.54 ver posts.

I set weekday 0-6 and evening 00-00
it seems to me that the string could be as follow

0.075/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.16/0.0/30/0.0.0/0x0001
it would means:
after weekday free minutes
0,16 euro on connect then 0.15 euro for minutes (ticked in 30 sec clusters)

0.075/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.16/0.0/30/0.0.0/0x0008:phone number
it would means
after free weekday extra minutes available only for this number
0,16 euro on connect then 0.15 euro minutes (ticked in 30 sec clusters)

for SMS I spend 0,15 euro for every SMS sent, free for incoming

0.15/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/

Is it correct?
I wrote my plan in the post above.

Thank you very much for your efforts!!

Colin said...

Hi Lyon,

I've been searching such an app for a while and finally found LCMinute. I would say that LCMinute is exactly what I've been looking, and best of all, it's free.

After reading through your blog and the rates string setting, I still face some problems with my SMS and GPRS.

I have 200 free outgoing SMS per month (incoming SMS are free). This can be used anytime. Anything exceeding this costs 5 cents per SMS. I've configured the SMS rates string as:

0.05/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0100

I've also tried changing the share flag to 0x0000 and 0x0300, but it's still not counting. The main screen only displays incoming SMS, but not the outgoing SMS.

I've turn on monitor trace, but not sure how to interprete the trace log.

For my GPRS, it was fine initially. However, it's juz not counting now.

Would appreciate your advise on my settings. Thanks in advance.

LyonPlus said...

Hi, Colin

Form SMS rates string, please use
0.05/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0100:;
instead of
0.05/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0100.

For GPRS counting, maybe reset your balance manually (import balance through menu) will fix it if it initially worked.

BR - LyonPlus

LyonPlus said...
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LyonPlus said...

Hi, Andrea, sorry for the late response, just in case you still need the advice.

To get what you want, you will need to use following rates string:
0.075/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.16/0.0/30/0/0/0x0001:;

0.075/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.0/0.16/0.0/30/0/0/0x0008:phone number;

0.15/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0000:;

BR - LyonPlus.

Colin said...

Hi Lyon,

Thanks for your prompt response. :)

I've already set my SMS string as
0.05/0.0/0.0/0.0/0/0/0x0100:;

As for the balance reset, not sure if I've done it correctly. I've exported the balance, and imported the file which I've exported.

Both my SMS and GPRS are still not counting. I tried to check the trace log and found these lines:

*** GPRS Trace ***
2010-09-27 22:15:05: RIL: GPRSCONNECTIONSTATUS: dwContextID=0x3, fActivated=1.
2010-09-27 22:15:05: RIL: Status Change: 0x029010a0 -> 0x009000a0.
2010-09-27 22:15:05: SNB: Status Change: 0x029010a0 -> 0x009000a0.
2010-09-27 22:15:05: RIL: IFROW: Type: 24, Index: 1, Speed: 10000000, name: .
2010-09-27 22:15:05: RIL: IFROW: Type: 6, Index: 2, Speed: 54000000, name: .
2010-09-27 22:15:06: RIL: Failed to calculate and save data connection charge.
2010-09-27 22:15:06: RIL: Connections count changed to 0

*** SMS Trace ***
2010-09-27 22:16:53: RIL: Message received at: 2010-09-27 14:16:49 from (phone number).
2010-09-27 22:16:56: RIL: Status: message to (phone number).
Received at 2010-09-27 14:16:49 Discharged at 2010-09-27 14:16:52 with deliver status (1).
2010-09-27 22:18:52: RIL: REGSTATUSCHANGED: HOME (2).
2010-09-27 22:19:23: RIL: Connections count changed to 1: Desktop(1)

Note: This SMS trace is based on a SMS that I sent to myself.

Also, would you share with us how to interprete the trace log?

Thanks & Rgds,
Colin

DTO said...

Lyon, are you creating any updates to your software. I love the information it tracks but would like to see something for WM 6.5 or using the HTC Sense UI. Hope we'll see more great updates from you!!!

rafa said...

Hi,

Great work. Congratulations.

But I think I need a little help from you. Let's see.

I have a 29€/month plan, that includes 300 minutes for numbers starting with 6 and 300 minutes for numbers starting with 9, any weekday, any time, no fee for conection, but you can't make calls to more than 150 different numbers each month.

When you exceed one of them (300 minutes on 6, 300 on 9 or more than 150 different numbers), the fee is 0,15€ for conection and 0,15€/min (paid by seconds). Any weekday, any time, any number.

SMS cost 0,15 any day, time or number.

So, how can I configure lcminutes?

Thanks.

Rafa.

stefano said...

Hello, your program is great.
I Have just one problem using data connection:
I have 500mb free every month, the plan is correctly setted and he counter in Display (71) work well during connection. But when I close my connection, the counter resets itself and the display is 0
Thanks

Ramon said...

Hello,
Many Thanks for you big application.Its worderfull!!!.
I need help for set my plan.

My plan cost 19,90 € /month
- 10 minutes /day free . The day minutes not used not combined to nexts days.
- If the 10 minutes / day are consumed, the calls are charged with 0,18 € / min with a call setup of 0,15 €.
- Dont free SMS. Cost 0,15 € for SMS.
- Data: 1 € /session within limit 10 MB.After billing for blocks 10 MB to 1 € with a max of 10€ for day

Thanks you very much for your help.

Greetings for Spain.

sri said...

hi,
in my plan i have 300 minutes free
for other calls and 300 for vodafone free calls.

how can i set my plan

Regards,

Sunil

Obed Klein said...

Hmmm... I need help. Is there a documentation somewhere? :-)

I have a funny plan. It is prepaid and I pay for the first SMS in the day. The next 99 are free. Then I pay again.

Is there a way to teach this to LCMinutes?

Thanks in advance for helping me out.

BiB

Blogger3008 said...

I don't care about the rate plan. I'm using LCMinutes just to capture my data usage as I'm on an unlimited plan and as I will probably soon be moving to a metered plan I want to know how much I should buy. I don't understand all of what LCMinutes is showing me about my usage. For example this entry:

11-07-07 14:57:26 18:04:06
76.67.xxx.xxx:(36801866, 2433057)b

So first line is obviously the date and time of this snapshot.

First element is (masked by me) IP address.

The numbers in brackets is obviously bytes but this isn't (DOWN, UP), right? I couldn't have downloaded 36GB on my little smartphone. I only watched max 2hrs of Youtube, plus email, some web browsing etc. Can someone help me explain these numbers please? Thanks. d.v.

Blogger3008 said...

Sorry for the double post. I had an expired captcha and when I resubmitted it seems to have gone twice. Also I forgot to say THANK YOU for this program! It is very clever and effective.

Blogger3008 said...

Ok. Looking at this again. Those are bytes not KB so it's much less usage. I installed this on June 8 and haven't had it running (at least not in the foreground) all the time. For most days there are entries. Some series of days it looks like all the numbers in the brackets are accumulating. But then sometimes they seem to start again seemingly from zero. What I want to do is take two dates: Let's say June 8 and July 8, and calculate how much data I've downloaded/uploaded. Have I lost data by not running the application all the time? Did it continue to run after any phone reboot and quietly keep track of my usage? Sorry for noob questions. Thank you.

Jesús Martínez said...

Hello lyon:
Congratulations for your program can be very useful. In my case I do not get it to work properly.

My rate is a fixed cost of 55 euros plus VAT. Includes phone, cable TV and internet connection. The phone has 500 free minutes to any day of the week, time and company, no connection charges. After charged at 0.15 per cent and 0.18 per minute connection without slots. I have checked the following options. Free SMS, I think 1000.

700 MB of internet connection, slow to complete. No surcharges.

Post paid, 55, charged 15, tax 21 wekkday 0-6, 00-00 evening, free incoming calls, free weekday minutes for 500, call rates 0.18/0.0/0.0/-50/0.0/.015/0.0/60 / 0/0/0x0001:,

Free incoming sms, free sms for weekday 500, sms rates 0.15/0.0/-50/0.0/0/0/0x0000:;

The balance does not seem to discount the free minutes or sms, add the cost without taking them into account.
Thanks for your help